Ramaley Genealogy

The place where I can put up my recent research for the descendants of my 5th great grandfather, Ambrose Remeli. To contact me, please email to james.ramaley@nospam.com [replace "nospam" by "gmail"]

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Born in Columbus, Ohio, I graduated from OSU and then studied to be a college math professor (Ph.D. from the University of New Mexico in 1967), but after several years teaching at Bowling Green State University (Ohio) and the University of Pittsburgh, PA, I got sidetracked into a career in computers and eventually in publishing. I retired in 1999 from a 25-year career with Ziff-Davis Publishing Company in New York where I had been Vice President of Circulation Systems. Now Mary Ann (my wife) and I "do genealogy", enjoy our Gettysburg home, and travel.

Tuesday, September 27, 2005

Spelling Variations

I have often been asked about the number of variations of the name Ramaley and so I developed a table of variations from my own data base.

I have roughly 11,000 descendants of the immigrant Ambrose Remeli and of those there are 4063 surnamed with some variation of Ramaley. These are not all living; by my estimate there should be about 3000 living today. I also follow the two-syllable "Remly" and "Remley" families although we have never been able to tie them into the immigant Ambrose.

Here it is:

Surname Male Fem Total
Ramale 10 8 18
Ramaley 286 234 520
Ramalia 17 11 28
Ramalie 14 8 22
Ramaly 20 12 32
Ramele 0 1 1
Rameley 1 0 1
Rameli 1 0 1
Ramelig 0 4 4
Rameli 1 1 2
Ramely 1 1 2
Ramulia 0 2 2
Raymaley 22 27 49
Remailia 1 0 1
Remaily 17 14 31
Remala 0 1 1
Remale 2 0 2
Remaley 856 962 1818
ReMalia 6 3 9
Remalia 36 32 68
Remalie 8 8 16
Remally 2 0 2
Remaly 507 508 1015
Remealich 0 1 1
Remehli 0 1 1
Remelah 1 0 1
Remelay 0 1 1
Remele 15 9 24
Remeleich 0 1 1
Remeley 2 7 9
Remeli 9 8 17
Remelie 1 0 1
Remely 167 178 345
Remilly 1 0 1
Remily 4 7 11
Rhemaly 1 3 4
Rimeley 1 0 1
Remley 158 152 310
Remly 45 43 88


Another question that was recently asked had to do with the probability of a chance encounter with a Ramaley descendant. That is, given some group of "random" people, what are the odds that two (or more) are Ramaley descendants?

Because there are "pockets" of Ramaleys (e.g., Lehigh County or Westmoreland County in Pennsylvania, Ramsey County in Minnesota, Tippecanoe County in Indiana, etc.) the odds would certainly be different in different places. Even here in the Gettysburg area there is a Ramaley (me), a Remaley in nearby Fairfield and I made a chance encounter in a downtown store with a person whose mother was a Remaley.

But having a lack of data never stopped a mathematician and since there are roughly 3000 people surnamed with some variation of the name, and there are about 300 million people in the US, we represent about .001% of the population (1 in 100,000).

However, this just accounts for people surnamed Ramaley. Since most people would recognize a surname of a grandparent, or a spouse, or an in-law, one might estimate that roughly 1 in 10,000 people would have a Ramaley in their near family and should recognize the name.

So, roughly, every time you encounter another 10,000 people there should be someone who would recognize the name as a near-relative. Depending on your lifestyle, encountering 10,000 people might take a month or it might take a year.

Of course, just encountering someone who would recognize the name doesn't insure that you actually make the connection since most of us don't advertise our name as we go through life. Sure there are occasions in which people have name tags or in which our name is published or announced, but most of the time that is not the case.

So what is the "bottom line."

Based upon the anecdotes I have heard, the encountering and recognizing of the name is reasonably rare -- perhaps any given Ramaley will "accidentally" run into another Ramaley only once or twice in a lifetime. I run into a lot more but that is because I actively seek relatives.

I would be interested in hearing from others about this.